Also why does everyone seem to hate on Ubuntu?

  • TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    The shortest answer -

    Arch has really good documentation and a release style that works for a lot of people.

    Ubuntu is coorporitized and less reliable Debian with features that many people dont need or want.

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            In some release they removed gdebi package installer so it made unavailable to install deb files with gui

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              I think so. I lost count of the little things, it really was death by a thousand paper cuts.

              I was a pretty rabid fan of Ubuntu, still have an x86 and ppc CD of 5.04 somewhere.

              But by the time snaps started appearing, and then Ubuntu pro, Ubuntu decided to revert some of my customized configs in /etc after an upgrade, I had had enough. When snaps were reinstalled after an upgrade in 2021, I just flipped over to Debian, which has come a long way in being usable out of the box.

      • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
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        The biggest one: Snaps.

        I switched from Ubuntu to Debian, and it’s basically the same thing, just faster since it uses native packages instead of Snaps. Ubuntu might as well run all it’s apps in Docker containers.

        You could rebrand Debian to Ubuntu and most users wouldn’t even notice.

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          I agree, I switched from Ubuntu to MX Linux in 2016 or so, MX is based on Debian, always up to date, just works, Xfce, .deb, no snap, etc

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        “Bloat” the less system there is (while still working as a modern system) the better. If i need something i can install it myself.

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        These days it’s mainly snap and how you can type apt install and the system will do snap install instead, for firefox for example.

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          17 hours ago

          Firefox has instructions on their website for adding their PPA and pinning it over Ubuntu’s. I find it interesting that they made an official response that seems to say “yeah nonconsensual snaps are bad, here’s another option”