• Sal@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    Hope every gaming company out there is sweating buckets at this. This is a matter of consumer rights.

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      We don’t want them to sweat, we just want them to do the right thing by their customers

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        These two things overlap under capitalism, as doing right by your customers is only required if not doing right by your customers affects your profits.

        We definitely want them to sweat.

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        The only way I see that happen is having the tools and ability to pirate any and all media like we had back in the napster days. That’s the only time I’ve ever seen these companies scared. A petition I don’t think will do much. Plus not only is there this issue. There is also the issue of groups now targeting the way funding works like on steam. Payment processes are now being used to apply pressure where certain groups do not like the content.

        The solution was always to defend and protect the people who cracked and pirated content. But I think they were all locked up and threatened.

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          A petition I don’t think will do much.

          This isn’t just any regular change.org petition, that can be ignored. It’s an official partition based on EU rules, where EU parliament is forced by law to listen to the initiators and talk about the topic, when it passes.

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            Ok but is there any group or lobbyists who are advocating or will this just be a petition sent to them which they can just ignore.

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                To what extent do they have to talk about it, though? Can they address it, come to the conclusion that it’s infeasible (while subtly tucking millions of dollars from game companies into their pockets), and consider the matter settled? I understand that governments are meant to keep corporations in check to benefit the people, but functionally they keep the people in check to benefit corporations and their “lobbyists” (bribes).

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      They hire like two lobbyists with 100k of splurge money and this won’t pass, for sure.

      If voting or filling a petition changed anything they would make it illegal.

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          America brain, Its like they think everyone is in the same dystopia as them.

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        By the way, the left could have done this for any number of issues in the past but refused to.

        Like how hard would it have been if everyone who showed up to a George Floyd protest instead donated to some fund that then went to paying a lobbyist/think tank to work for them in Washington to change laws and make sure the police officers and department actually saw justice.

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          donated to some fund that then went to paying a lobbyist/think tank to work for them

          It would be more effective to get a quarter of 1.4 million people organized with united demands and on the streets of Brussels with the actual risk of projecting threat violence on EU bureaucrats, then StopKillingGames or any petition or demand would have a much better chance of passing. At that point you wouldn’t even need collect any names before hand :) All the voting, all the petitions all the representation only exists to act as an filter and push the little people people and their little people idea’s far away from actual power as possible.

          I’ll be positively surprised if this passes, but I really really really doubt it. Too much money at stake here just for the sake of having some pro consumer common sense.

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            The EU has gotten us pro consumer common sense a number of times already, like with iPhones and the GDPR.

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            There is no way that you believe people showing up in streets would do anything lol

            That’s what the powerful hope we do. It’s the most useless action possible. It’s like trying to boil water by breathing hot air on it. You’ll get tired way before you get any boiling.

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                Yea whose the president?

                We’ve had more protests in the past 10 years than any other time. None of them have accomplished much of anything.

                You’d be lying to say otherwise. I’m sure you’ll try to find some policy or law that was implemented that nobody listens to as proof of action.

                You can’t tell me there’s a global protest like George Floyd or no Kings and the result was what?? What the fuck did any of it accomplish. Insanity to continue with the idea that protests are doing anything other than given the opportunity to arrest thought leaders and kick in the heads of everything else.

                You’re literally throwing bodies against an armed and trained force that watches you all protest like referees at a hockey game before they come in and break it all up. I’ve watched countless protests where the protesters are herded like cattle into pens before getting busted up. There’s no way you can tell me honestly that the authorities aren’t in love with the idea of you all showing up against their armed and trained forces. The left is doomed. It’s not just the Democrats who do these performative actions with no results. It’s all of the left.