The original /r/piracy was purposefully gimped because Reddit received DMCAs for any random thing and didn’t even bother to follow up. Since we’re in new waters, I want things to be a bit more relaxed, but there’s a limit on how relaxed we can be, without starting to get lawsuits, which I will not be able to fight off. I also host other communities and interests which might cause me headaches.
Remember, this is a hobby project (and none of you scurvy dogs are donating) :D
So here are some piracy-related ground rules for he whole of lemmy.dbzer0.com as of today
- No direct links. This means anything which would make Nintendo or Disney light my ass on fire. I am not going to ban you for it (unless you start doing this on purpose), but I will ask admins and mods to remove them.
- You can link to websites pages related to piracy. Linking to websites linking to your content (not with a 301 redirect, before you ask) is OK. In general try to keep one degree of separation between our collective groins and your links.
- Magnet Links and links to Torrent files are OK, unless we start getting into trouble for it.
- /c/piracy has its own, more restrictive rules. Follow them first when they differ from what I post here! /c/piracy is for generic discussion, I don’t want it to turn into a link repository full of beggars, got it?
- These rules apply to all pirate communities in lemmy.dbzer0.com. Unless that community has more restrictive rules from its own mods. I can easily get a lawsuit because you start making a nintendo ROM link repository.
- You can still post direct links elsewhere: If you want a place to post direct links, I suggest you use a community on a server setup to handle this. This requires some significant investment in anonymity and hosting provider (these providers are 3x as expensive, yo!). You can still subscribe and share from those communities with your account in lemmy.dbzer0.com, which can serve as your “port of safety” as those lemmies could be taken down due to those links. If that happens, this safer community will still be up.
All in all, this lemmy is supposed to be Pirate-allied, but not a direct link repository. I literally cannot handle that legal risk at the moment. I hope you all understand the realities of our situation. As much as we can argue that a link to a file is not infringing, the Cartel’s legal fund is bottomless, and all I have is a tinsy-tiny treasure chest under my birdbath.
If any pirate communites need to migrate after this, I understand. I would still suggest you keep them around as the “safe” community, and post your link aggregation on a lemmy instance which can handle the eye of sauron. This way you get both a stable community and account, and your links via fediverse. Win-win.
The sporadic encrypted link would be OK, but nothing becoming standardized. If we become known as a link sharing site, we’ll get in trouble.
The fundamental reason for saying this is that I am one of the representatives of a Korean piracy community. We used to utilize shortfile hosting to share stuff like scene and 0day with link encryption + base64. But for some reason our community died and we became internet refugees and we were looking for a place on the web to create another pirate community and this is where we found it. If you welcome us or don’t welcome us for some reason, please let me know why and if you don’t welcome us, please let me know a decent alternative.
You’re of course welcome here. It’s just a matter of how likely your practices is to lead to us being targeted, you know? If you’re going to share the occasional link encrypted between yourselves, it should be fine. But if you start posting whole directories of links, it might be a problem. However a hybrid option where you have a comm here for discussions and you use things like pastebins to host your link collection should work.
If you give me some idea of how you plan to utilize the comm, I can give some more practical pointers on how to ensure we’re not in danger.
To give a brief description of the existing community, it’s basically in Korean and consists of chatting about piracy, sharing information like ripped.guide, and for data, you make a request (the request format is scene name and predb), someone uploads it, and it’s shared via the aforementioned encryption and base64. What I would like to get is to change the whole operation and the way requests and uploads are done to be as low risk as possible, but I’ve already tried chatting like a matrix and it didn’t work. Oh, and here’s the community as it’s currently built:) https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/highway
The problem is, if you were to do this, it would defacto makes us a piracy indexer, as the names of the releases the the relevant link to get them would be on our website. This could cause the copyright cartel to go after us and we can’t defend against that. If you could arrange to have the index externally (for example, on a rentry.co entry) and then when someone requests a link, you point them to that to ctrl+f, it could work.
And please understand that if the community I’ve re-launched sees an increase in subscribers, more posts, or more upvotes, it’s not spam, but a temporary result of accepting Internet refugees.
That’s fine. I hope you can all enjoy the threadiverse! Just remember that this is an anarchist-run server, so ensure that your members take heed of our code of conduct.
Then, if the problem is that indexing and data sharing are done at the same time, would it be a safe solution to share the data here using encryption and base64 and make requests from outside (e.g. matrix, telegram)?
So you’d have a bunch of encrypted strings here but no information of what they are? I mean that’s fine but I think it wouldn’t work very optimally for you. Because if someone requested the link on matrix, why not directly give them the link in matrix in the first place?
I have confirmed. I plan to take your advice as top priority and operate accordingly. If you have any advice for me at any time, please send me a message.
Ye, basically always keep in mind how much risk it creates. Anything you would do that make us look like an indexer, makes us a target. So the more layers between us and the infringing content we have, the safer.