• kratoz29@lemm.ee
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    13 days ago

    I mean… I will be able to get a Nintendo Switch 2 eventually… Regarding the Steam Deck, I can’t buy it officially in Mexico yet… Come on Valve, we are literally neighbors of the USA lol.

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    13 days ago

    I don’t blame them. Nintendo fans buy anything at any price. I don’t see it being different this time.

    Mario Kart 8 never goes on sale and sold 70m copies; Pokémon Scarlet/Violet sold 30m despite looking and playing like dogshit; they sold Skyward Sword HD, the remaster of a 10-yo game, at full price and still placed a few millions.

    Nintendo is basically like Apple at this point, the brand is enough to convince people to spend more than they would for the competition, regardless of quality. I personally know a lot of people who loudly groaned/complained at the price announcement, but will still buy it day one, just like they always had in all these years.

    And people terminally online should stop pretending the Steam Deck is competition to the Switch 2. It couldn’t even compete with the Switch 1, which was five years older, had worse performance, and had been easily emulated for years at that point.

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      13 days ago

      You’re not wrong, Nintendo fans will buy this. As a Nintendo fan, I will buy this - though, it’s gone from a Day 1, no-brainer purchase to “when I can justify the expense” - but Nintendo fans make up a small fraction of people who bought a Switch 1.

      See: Wii U, 3DS

      The Wii and DS printed money, and they assumed most of those users would move on to the new hardware. They did not. They had to slash the 3DS price within months, and nothing saved the Wii U.

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        13 days ago

        Probably not going to happen, but I think it would be awesome if it’s like the 3DS where they realize the cost is too much, then they lower the price significantly and the early adopters who sacrificed their firstborns for it will have some sort of ambassador program.

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      13 days ago

      Nintendo is basically like Apple at this point, the brand is enough to convince people to spend more than they would for the competition, regardless of quality.

      People spend more on Apple/Nintendo because of quality. Windows is ten years gone to enshittification. The ps5/xbox have ads on their home screen and are one bad GTA away from a full industry crash

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        13 days ago

        People spend more on Apple/Nintendo because of quality.

        Perhaps we had very different experiences with the JoyCon…

        Joking aside, I agree. I used to buy Nintendo for that reason. Then came JoyCon drift and out of control Nintendo lawyers.

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          11 days ago

          Fully agree. I disabled the joycon motion controls on Zelda to be able to play it. I was not going to give Nintendo more money for another faulty replacement.

          It is part of the reason I will not buy a switch 2. They evaporated the trust I had in them chasing profits by not acknowledging a very known problem.

          It’s clear that it is lawyers and bean counters steering the company. The only thing they still have going for them is they delay games until they are acceptable, once that boat has sailed, you know it will be all downhill going forward.

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        13 days ago

        No. They buy Apple & Nintendo because of brand loyalty and their social significance.

        Have you not seen how deranged they get about those companies products? Nintendo fans lose their minds if someone dare criticize a Mario, Metroid, and especially Zelda games.

        Apple fanatics think every new product is a revolution even though some other company or organization has usually already beat them to the punch.

        Further, Windows, PS5, & Xbox are are not their only competition. And even then, they are enshitiffied now but that doesn’t explain Nintendo and Apple fans behavior before those competitors became this way.

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          13 days ago

          You’re overreacting to other people’s social media overreactions. I’m talking about the actual products they sell.

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      13 days ago

      Apart from both being TV/Handheld hybrid consoles, I’m not understanding why people think Switch/2 and Steam Deck are in direct competition with each other. They aren’t. They’re in totally separate leagues.

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        13 days ago

        Similar form factor, similar price, similar use case. The big difference is that one plays Nintendo games and another plays PC games.

        I own a steam deck, therefore the appeal of a switch 2 is their exclusive games. I don’t need both, they scratch the same itch.

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    14 days ago

    The only thing “convoluted” about this whole announcement was pricing. The price of the console The price of the games The price of their online services and upgrades…

    All of that is gut-wrenching as Nintendo claws at its dedicated fans wallets.

    Otherwise the features and games look amazing, i understand why people are willing to pay those prices.

    Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.

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      Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.

      Nintendo won’t make this mistake again. But I’m like you, also hoping their security experts are the same dipshits as before so we can resume pirating the entire overpriced Nintendo library.

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        13 days ago

        Nintendo won’t make this mistake again

        17th time’s the charm

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        14 days ago

        Nintendo continuously makes the easiest to hack and emulate consoles and handhelds. They been fighting emulation for 30 years and still churn out systems that get cracked immediately.

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      13 days ago

      They made a change that the cartridges no longer hold the game data but will require a download of the game and the cartridge is just a key for the digital game.

      That will stop game dumping from the cartridge. But with a jailbroken console, we can still get the game that way.

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          Wait so there will be two different types of cartridges? Some that do hold game data and others that don’t and are just the digital key?

          I was under the impression this would be all cartridges for the Switch 2.

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            13 days ago

            Yes. In the direct they specifically said that physical game cartridges will be the same shape and size as switch 1 cartridges, but will be red and are much faster. Then in their customer support documentation on their website it says that game key cards are different from regular game cards and will be clearly labeled as “game-key card” on the packaging. However, this doesn’t mean that they will always produce working physical games. This game-key card thing may just be a way to slowly transition into an all digital market without causing a sudden uproar

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    13 days ago

    It’s not convoluted at all. It’s extremely simple: if you want to (edit: legally) play first party Nintendo titles (or other exclusives), you MUST buy a switch. If you don’t care about Nintendo exclusives, there’s absolutely no reason to own a switch. That has been true of every, single Nintendo console ever released… except for the Wii. People bought a Wii so they could play a motion control game with Grandma once or twice, and then just let the console sit and collect dust.

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    13 days ago

    The console price, the game price and no oled screen as well as it being so damn big make it a hard pass for me.

    Il wait for the Switch 2 Lite OLED.

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    13 days ago

    Honestly I don’t see myself getting a switch 2 until its able to be emulated. and I’m buying it and all the games used so I don’t have to support Nintendo financially

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      12 days ago

      IIRC it was only later models that were 4-9 hrs. Release model got 3-5 I think?

      They switched (heh) production in later hardware revisions to a more efficient version of the CPU, manufactured with lower nm process. Conveniently it was also to stop easy access to debug pins which were exposed in the OG version, giving easy access to entire system

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        11 days ago

        I was about to say, I never got more than 3-4 on the one I own. You refreshed my memory. It also had an OLED screen on the updated hardware.