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      This is not an example of leopards eating someone’s face. Unless those projects threw their support behind Trump’s admin, and I have no reason to believe they did, this is simply falling victim to fascist idiots.

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      Uhh… these projects are the backbone of the free and modern web. How is less funding a good thing?

      • Not the one you answered to, but I think I can understand the idea of US funding having been a toxic source of dependency, and it being better in the long run to get money elsewhere. That “elsewhere” is a good question, though.

        Just me, personally, my dream would be an international fund, carried by the UN or maybe an independent NGO, that can get funding from both private and public funds, that prioritises free internet access the way the WHO prioritises health. But I think that’s still far off.

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          No. UN and related independent NGOs have shown their cards. They cannot be trusted. ICANN is the quintessential example of an ossified vulturous bureaucracy laser focused on oligarchic control. And the ITU has designs to rewrite current Internet protocols to have a fee structure built in at the packet level to ensure no packed flow without someone paying money.

          We cannot trust the systems we have now. We must focus on diversifying income sources for us to be safe

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          Isn’t the OTF already an NGO that can receive funding from different sources?

          • Kind of, I wouldn’t really call them an international organisation in the way I would be imagining, see how easy it was to cut their funding when national interests turned openly fascist. Their affiliation with the US government above more independent, international organisations meant, that they would support privacy and a free and open internet, as long as it helps dissidents in other, non-aligned countries, but quick to cut it, if it reaches their own doorsteps.

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          US funding having been a toxic source of dependency, and it being better in the long run to get money elsewhere.

          Yup, pretty much my intent, that and the insecurity it engenders, rather surprised by the reaction.

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            the reaction makes sense; these organizations are modeled after for-profit corporations since that’s where most of its leaders come from and oriented towards simpler modes of funding like the american gov’t; this is effectively a disaster for this sort of posture and it’s hard from them to imagine any other form.

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        Not sure if this is meant here, but shockingly many people believe that “funding” something equals to “controlling” it.

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        Not a good thing, just an inevitable one, as they conflict with the interests of the US (oligarchs and techbros).

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        How could you read it that way ? I’m saying eventually they were going to conflict with the interests of the US (oligarchs and techbros) and lose funding. Shocker, it happened under cheeto.

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            Yeah, I have a broader view of the phrase, which includes complacency (not actively working at alternatives) as well as just voting, seems most agree with you.

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              Having a broader view of a phrase just means you didn’t understand the phrase. It’s okay to admit that.