You would do that probably because you have a huge Steam library but many Switch users have a huge Switch library and want that performance upgrade. You and me are not their target audience but it remains to be seen if the Switch 2 will flop or exactly what Nintendo fans want right now. There‘s a huge difference between paying 600€ and 1000€ for hardware that‘s pretty much toe to toe anyway. If I wanted a Steamdeck I sure as hell wouldn‘t buy one right now but wait a little longer.
Toe to Toe? At least the steamdeck can run Crysis. Switch not, easy Steamdeck win.
Performance upgrade on a already locked on 60fps ( some 30 ) games? on default on a LCD display? That they didnt even considered default on OLED display is just … cash grabby.
And the switch 2 can run the new mario kart and the steam deck not.
Both of these games don’t run on the other platform because they are exclusives, not because the hardware can’t handle it. So what’s your point?
It’s just confirming what the guy you replied to was saying: if you have steam games and want to run steam games, get a steam deck. If you have switch games and want to run switch games, get a switch.
You know the PC vs. Console debate isn’t new. That one has been going on ever since PCs and consoles existed.
When I was a teenager, I, too, didn’t understand why anyone would buy a console over a PC because the PC can do so much more than a console.
Then I got kids, and I understood.
There are two main angles:
Parental controls
On a console, a kid can only play what I allow. I get the games, I can disable features (e.g. browser or social features) that I deem risky. It’s all easy, it just works. My 7yo won’t be playing Fortnite or Doom without my approval. Try locking down any kind of PC (Windows or Linux) to a child safe level so that the kid doesn’t have access to age-inappropriate content. It’s borderline impossible. My dad tried and failed, and if I tried, I’d most likely fail too.
Ease of use
Every second time, my wife and kids want to play something on the living room PC they call me to fix some issue. The controller isn’t pairing. The controller is pairing, but the game doesn’t recognise it. Steam link to the gaming PC doesn’t work. Or it does work, but the resolution is crap. Or all sorts of other issues. With consoles, you don’t have that. It all just works.
A PC is definitely the more capable system, and a power user will get more out of it than out of a console, no question about that.
But claiming there is no use case for a console is entirely wrong, too. A look at sales numbers for Switch (152mio sold) vs Steam Deck (3.7mio sold) should clear the question up whether there’s a use case for a switch.
I mean especially as a parent do i want to waste 80€ for a game? And i mean switch (1) is that what you describe the switch 2 is a cashgrab you cant tell me differently.
I mean, especially as a parent do I want to waste hours setting up the system, fixing misconfigurations and trying to keep my elementary school kid from watching porn or heavy violence on the system?
€80 is a lot, but not nearly as much as the time you spend on the device if you factor in your hourly rate.
And for most non-techy parents the choice doesn’t even exist. They don’t even know how they’d setup parental controls or fix issues on a PC.
Also: if you put €60 from 2017 into an inflation calculator and convert that to 2025 money, you get €82. Yes, it sucks that everything gets more expensive, but that’s just how inflation works.
My grandma also always complained that when she was young she could get a whole bar of chocolate for 0.50 Schilling (€~0.04).
If it’s too much for you, then don’t pay it. It’s not like there are no alternatives.
I usually just buy games years later for a fraction of the price. Or wait until a platform becomes abandonware and I can’t buy a game in retail any more (meaning the publisher doesn’t want to take my money), and then I pirate it.
There are a couple hundred of thousands of great games, I don’t need the flashiest, newest thing.
I’m just saying that the €80 pricing isn’t that crazy, it’s just inflation adjustment. In fact, the €60 price point for full-price games has been around since at least 2005. Adjusted for inflation, that’s around €100 in today’s money.
In fact, SNES games even cost up to €80 in 1993, which would be ~€180 in today’s money, and even the cheapest titles back then (akin to our current low-budget indie titles) started from €40 (~€90 today).
So, the price is really not that bad. And, as I said, you can just wait for the sale and get it cheaper anyway. Full price is only for people who need exactly this game exactly right now.
You would do that probably because you have a huge Steam library but many Switch users have a huge Switch library and want that performance upgrade. You and me are not their target audience but it remains to be seen if the Switch 2 will flop or exactly what Nintendo fans want right now. There‘s a huge difference between paying 600€ and 1000€ for hardware that‘s pretty much toe to toe anyway. If I wanted a Steamdeck I sure as hell wouldn‘t buy one right now but wait a little longer.
Toe to Toe? At least the steamdeck can run Crysis. Switch not, easy Steamdeck win.
Performance upgrade on a already locked on 60fps ( some 30 ) games? on default on a LCD display? That they didnt even considered default on OLED display is just … cash grabby.
And the switch 2 can run the new mario kart and the steam deck not.
Both of these games don’t run on the other platform because they are exclusives, not because the hardware can’t handle it. So what’s your point?
It’s just confirming what the guy you replied to was saying: if you have steam games and want to run steam games, get a steam deck. If you have switch games and want to run switch games, get a switch.
It will soon just wait.
If Nintendo allows you to play their games get not a switch ditch their platform with their 10 games.
You know the PC vs. Console debate isn’t new. That one has been going on ever since PCs and consoles existed.
When I was a teenager, I, too, didn’t understand why anyone would buy a console over a PC because the PC can do so much more than a console.
Then I got kids, and I understood.
There are two main angles:
On a console, a kid can only play what I allow. I get the games, I can disable features (e.g. browser or social features) that I deem risky. It’s all easy, it just works. My 7yo won’t be playing Fortnite or Doom without my approval. Try locking down any kind of PC (Windows or Linux) to a child safe level so that the kid doesn’t have access to age-inappropriate content. It’s borderline impossible. My dad tried and failed, and if I tried, I’d most likely fail too.
Every second time, my wife and kids want to play something on the living room PC they call me to fix some issue. The controller isn’t pairing. The controller is pairing, but the game doesn’t recognise it. Steam link to the gaming PC doesn’t work. Or it does work, but the resolution is crap. Or all sorts of other issues. With consoles, you don’t have that. It all just works.
A PC is definitely the more capable system, and a power user will get more out of it than out of a console, no question about that.
But claiming there is no use case for a console is entirely wrong, too. A look at sales numbers for Switch (152mio sold) vs Steam Deck (3.7mio sold) should clear the question up whether there’s a use case for a switch.
I mean especially as a parent do i want to waste 80€ for a game? And i mean switch (1) is that what you describe the switch 2 is a cashgrab you cant tell me differently.
Let me rephrase that:
I mean, especially as a parent do I want to waste hours setting up the system, fixing misconfigurations and trying to keep my elementary school kid from watching porn or heavy violence on the system?
€80 is a lot, but not nearly as much as the time you spend on the device if you factor in your hourly rate.
And for most non-techy parents the choice doesn’t even exist. They don’t even know how they’d setup parental controls or fix issues on a PC.
Also: if you put €60 from 2017 into an inflation calculator and convert that to 2025 money, you get €82. Yes, it sucks that everything gets more expensive, but that’s just how inflation works.
My grandma also always complained that when she was young she could get a whole bar of chocolate for 0.50 Schilling (€~0.04).
Still 80€ is too much dont freaking accept this bs pricing
If it’s too much for you, then don’t pay it. It’s not like there are no alternatives.
I usually just buy games years later for a fraction of the price. Or wait until a platform becomes abandonware and I can’t buy a game in retail any more (meaning the publisher doesn’t want to take my money), and then I pirate it.
There are a couple hundred of thousands of great games, I don’t need the flashiest, newest thing.
I’m just saying that the €80 pricing isn’t that crazy, it’s just inflation adjustment. In fact, the €60 price point for full-price games has been around since at least 2005. Adjusted for inflation, that’s around €100 in today’s money.
In fact, SNES games even cost up to €80 in 1993, which would be ~€180 in today’s money, and even the cheapest titles back then (akin to our current low-budget indie titles) started from €40 (~€90 today).
So, the price is really not that bad. And, as I said, you can just wait for the sale and get it cheaper anyway. Full price is only for people who need exactly this game exactly right now.