Introducing stronger dependencies on systemd – Adrian's blog
blogs.gnome.org
PSA for systemd-free distros about work they'll need to do to continue running GNOME
  • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    251·
    3 days ago

    This all seems to make sense. Ditching legacy and rarely used code that next to no one uses (and some that was temporary to begin with.)

    Nothing stopping anyone else from creating things to handle gnome without systemd but also making the workload easier and one might argue more secure.

    • Dark Arc@pie.packetloss.ggEnglish
      81·
      3 days ago

      Yeah, I generally agree; I’m a big fan of systemd on Linux.

      However, on BSD this does sound unfortunately likely to be painful.

      • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4·
        2 days ago

        Anyone developing desktop for BSD will likely just gravitate to xfce or similar I bet. I honestly am not sure what ghostbsd or midnight or others package by default now.

        • Dark Arc@pie.packetloss.ggEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          I’m not either, I’ve never even ran a BSD desktop… But I support the BSD desktop existing and wish it well.

      • esa@discuss.tchncs.de
        3·
        3 days ago

        I’ve heard of the year of Linux on the desktop, but I’ve never really heard of the year of BSD on the desktop. Apart from OSX, maybe.

        I guess this is the kind of stuff POSIX could’ve helped with, but it seems to be busy mandating buggy behaviour.

  • kbal@fedia.io
    209·
    3 days ago

    GNOME continues its long journey from being the one-time linux standard to a occupying a quirky little niche for masochists and corporate IT departments.

    • cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de
      141·
      3 days ago

      It’s sad, but whenever I read news about Gnome I just think “why?”. KDE just seems better managed with a better plan for sustainable development.

      • mmmm@sopuli.xyz
        10·
        3 days ago

        Because choices, freedom… that kind of stuff. And I say this as a now long time KDE user who used to use GNOME in the beginning.

        That being said, what made me flee to KDE was realizing that its devs somehow think they know their users better than their users know themselves so they decided to develop a software metaphor with a utterly specific way to do things. Not that it’s a bad thing per se, they can do whatever they want if they don’t hurt anything or anyone else - but I wish people coming into the Linux and FOSS world could have that as a kind of warning when the distro they choose to begin their journey happens to ship GNOME as default.

        • Feyd@programming.dev
          6·
          3 days ago

          GNOME being viewed as standard because of history is the source of a lot of complaints people have about Linux when comparing to windows and that never ceases to frustrate me

        • Victor@lemmy.world
          4·
          3 days ago

          what made me flee to KDE was realizing that its devs somehow think they know their users better than their users know themselves

          Who are you talking about, GNOME or KDE?

          • dgdft@lemmy.worldEnglish
            7·
            3 days ago

            Gnome. The maintainers have a hard-earned rep for contemptuous attitudes towards community and end-user feedback.

  • Tja@programming.dev
    5·
    3 days ago

    ConsoleKit support was removed 10 years ago. I still remember when I thought “I need to learn ConsoleKit when I get some free time”.

    Anyway, nice of them to provide the PSA and the transition facilities.